tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post889159378458206862..comments2023-08-15T06:44:05.705-05:00Comments on Pure Church: Worth It? And Not.FellowElderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590139703839397873noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-29392519776633308762006-12-18T14:06:00.000-05:002006-12-18T14:06:00.000-05:00FellowElder and/or ajcarter,
Have either of you r...FellowElder and/or ajcarter,<br /><br />Have either of you reached out to the faithful pastors within the NBC? If not, that would be great. If so, what has been the response?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-12345830993805929202006-12-18T12:09:00.000-05:002006-12-18T12:09:00.000-05:00"What do you think? Is the NBC worth staying in at..."What do you think? Is the NBC worth staying in at this point?"<br /><br />Carter, <br />I think it's WORTH saving, but it'll take a move of God the likes of which I've not seen in my lifetime! Now, that's not intended as a pessimistic statement. Nothing is too hard for God. <br /><br />It's possible, and it's worth it, so I suppose folks should stay in the NBC, playing a very critical and reform-minded role. After all, I'm not sure that the other predominantly African-American Baptist conventions are much healthier. <br /><br />But to see reform of this magnitude, I think we would need a real ground swell of healthy churches to accompany those faithful pastors you mention. It would seem to me that the gospel, if not lost, certainly doesn't appear to be central or even prominent in most of what I see with the NBC. Recovering that would be critical. Reforming the local church would be indispensible. Revival absolutely necessary. It would be worth it, and I'm praying that God would do it even as I write this.FellowElderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590139703839397873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-19613699537875585532006-12-18T11:58:00.000-05:002006-12-18T11:58:00.000-05:00Anonymous,
David and elders.... The simplest ans...Anonymous,<br /><br />David and elders.... The simplest answer would be that David was a hand-chosen (God's hand!) king of Israel, a theocratic nation unique in the history of redemption. God knew his heart perfectly and described him as a man after his own heart, and promised that the King of kings would never cease to reign on his throne. In other words, David is an utterly unique individual in history pointing forward to Christ.<br /><br />As an elder myself, I'm nothing like David. And neither is any other elder/pastor. The qualifications in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 are pretty clear. These things are the "price of admission" for serving in this role... and they're God's standards, not man's. So, when someone fails to meet these standards, we would be wise to agree with God and conclude they're not called, prepared, or suitable for that office. We may forgive them, and should, but forgivness and reinstatement to the office are two entirely different things. This is what seems to be lost in some of the comments in the article re: Lyons.FellowElderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590139703839397873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-21774306536268002372006-12-18T11:22:00.000-05:002006-12-18T11:22:00.000-05:00FellowElder,
It would be helpful if you could exp...FellowElder,<br /><br />It would be helpful if you could explain why David could remain King of Israel (notwithstanding his adultery, murder, and disobedient children), but Lyons is forever unfit to be an elder in God's chuch. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-19629611234330163152006-12-18T10:26:00.000-05:002006-12-18T10:26:00.000-05:00TA,
Having grown up in the NBC, all I can say is t...TA,<br />Having grown up in the NBC, all I can say is that this is the same ol' soup just warmed over. <br /><br />The NBC saddly is a denomination where there are some good, solid, theologically sound preachers, but because of the politics of the denomination we rarely, if at all, will see them in leadership. <br /><br />I continue to feel for my brothers who have to carry the baggage of that denomination. Many are still under the belief that they can change it from the inside. I have long lost hope of that happening. But, for their sakes I hope I am wrong. <br /><br />What do you think? Is the NBC worth staying in at this point?ajcarterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980281246023066725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28988815.post-84525913849712749852006-12-18T09:42:00.000-05:002006-12-18T09:42:00.000-05:00On the other hand, the dramatized reading of the B...On the other hand, the dramatized reading of the Bible uses...... the TNIV. The KJV-only crowd would throw a fit, I'm sure, but even those of us who prefer careful, faithful translation are throwing our own mini-fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com