Showing posts with label marriage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label marriage. Show all posts

Saturday, December 19, 2009

The Cost of Following Jesus: Helping Andy and Angela

Remember Angela and Andy? They're a young couple who have been dating for the past year and they've now come to you/your church to be married. As you speak with Andy you learn that both have been divorced. This will be their second marriage.

In Andy's case, his first wife had been unfaithful and they eventually divorced over the adultery. Andy and his first wife were professing Christians. In Angela's case, she had been unfaithful to her husband, leading to a divorce. At the time, neither Angela nor her husband were believers.

Andy's first wife has gone on to remarry and now lives with her second husband and four children across town. Angela's first husband has not remarried.

These are individuals who will find that following Jesus requires counting the costs, denying themselves and bearing their cross. I think we sometimes forget the weightiness of this for people looking to follow the Savior.

The Costs

Most people would say that Andy is free to remarry since he was not the one who broke the marriage covenant with his first wife. I think that's the majority interpretation of passages like Matthew 5 and 19. But there are some who argue that remarriage isn't appropriate even for Andy. See here for one example.

But what is certain is that Andy cannot continue a relationship with Angela. The cost of following Jesus will be ending a one-year romantic interest on the verge of marriage. And that won't be easy. I think most people in this situation would make an appeal to forgiveness or grace or freedom, and leave off any personal application of the divorce and remarriage passages. They'll miss the import of Titus 2:11-12; grace teaches us to obey Christ. Grace never makes it okay to disobey. The challenge for Andy will be deciding that marriage to Angela is not a "right" to be jealously grasped. Rather, he must embrace the freedom that comes from obedience and choose what appears an inconvenient and perhaps foolish course.


Angela will have the same cost to pay: she cannot marry Andy. Moreover, as I understand the Scripture, she cannot ever remarry. To remarry would be adultery.

Consider the cost of following Jesus for Angela. There is terminating the relationship with Andy. There is the foreclosure of any romantic relationship for the remainder of her life. There is the preclusion of ever having children naturally. Having known the joys marital intimacy, there is now a life of celibacy ahead.

For most people, that's a staggering list of costs. In my short experience, most would rather disobey the Lord and pursue these desires than obey Him in love. When presented with these issues, many walk away from the faith and the church, unwilling to pay the costs once counted.


Helping Andy and Angela
It's the church's call to help this brother and sister walk worthy of the callings they have received in Christ. What does that look like?

1. Helping Andy and Angela think in biblical terms about grace. There's much that could be said here, but at least two aspects are critical. First, as Titus 2:11-2 points out, saving grace actually teaches us to say "no" to ungodliness and to live sober, godly lives in this evil age. One dark, domineering thought they each will have is: I can't do this. This is too much. I don't want to say 'no' to this desire. How will we make it? The answer from the Scripture is God will teach you with His grace.

Second, this means that in whatever situation God calls us, His grace will be sufficient for us. People in this situation imagine the happy, harp-playing glories of love and marriage. They daydream about a life of joy and bliss on one side of the ledger. And they compare that to an imagined life of unrelenting suffering, loneliness, and so on. Their imagination is rigged, biased in favor of their desires and against God's calling. They are sympathetic with their own sinful impulses and resistant to God's path and wisdom. In that sense, they're loving darkness rather than the light. What they need help to see is that a life of fruitful, joyful singleness is not only possible but real for many. Moreover, the same grace that meets them in their sin provides for them in all God's callings and commands. His commands are not burdensome. His yoke is easy. He will not quench the smoking flax. Grace calls us to imagine that the best possible future lies in the path God chooses instead of the path of our desires.

2. Help Andy and Angela understand the necessity of the local church family. Rather than leave the church, Andy and Angela should be helped to plug even more deeply in their local fellowships. They'll need the support and counsel of godly family in the household of God. They'll likely want to go places where no one is "butting into their business," or someplace where people tell them what they want to hear. They'll likely begin pulling away from the family. But this is when the family needs to be most aware of their struggles and most caring. Whether through a small group of fellow saints or with concentrated one-on-one discipleship, Andy and Angela need to be tethered tightly to the church so that they're helped to think in biblical ways, process their feelings, and walk out their callings.


3. In time, help Andy and Angela with finding ways of expressing their desires. This may mean helping Andy to remarry as the Lord provides a woman free to marry. This might mean helping Angela consider adoption if she wants to parent. The difficult part of this situation is that Andy and Angela can't have the lives they desire with each other. But that doesn't mean they can't have elements of their desired lives at all. Careful counseling, pastoral leadership, and support from the church family should work to encourage each of them to fully embrace the range of life opportunities the Lord provides within the good boundaries of His word and will. There will be a million opportunities for glorifying Jesus with their lives, even if they aren't the traditional ways of doing some of them.

Well, that's my sense of things. No easy answers. Or perhaps there are some easy answers, but the implementation is emotionally taxing and messy.

Your Turn

I would love to hear what you think. How would you counsel a couple in a situation like this? Do you know any situations like this and how have you helped/failed to help in the past? What can we learn from each other?

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

The Cost of Following Jesus: Angela and Andy

Today I want to pick up our periodic series on "The Cost of Following Jesus." This is a series where we present a case study usually involving new converts to Christ who will face significant "costs" for following the Lord.

In our opening posts (here, here, and here), we considered the case of "Brad" and his long-time live-in girlfriend and three children. We considered the cost of Brad following Jesus and how the church should help him to pay that cost.

We've been thinking of Luke 14 as one foundation text for this series. There, the Lord says:
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

28"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? 29For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.'

31"Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. 33In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

So, we're left to understand that those who turn from the broad path of the world to the narrow path of the Kingdom will need to count and pay the cost of following Jesus.

Scenario 2: Angela and Andy, Divorcees Wishing to Remarry


Today, I want to introduce a different scenario. Meet "Angela" and "Andy." They've been dating for about a year now. Both are professing Christians; they understand the gospel and give evidence of loving the Lord. They're in their early thirties and are active parts of two different local churches.

"Andy" is a member of your church. They've decided to marry and have come to you/your church seeking marriage counseling and to have the wedding there. As you speak with Andy you learn that both have been divorced. This will be their second marriage.

In Andy's case, his first wife had been unfaithful and they eventually divorced over the adultery. Andy and his first wife were professing Christians. In Angela's case, she had been unfaithful to her husband, leading to a divorce. At the time, neither Angela nor her husband were believers.

Andy's first wife has gone on to remarry and now lives with her second husband and four children across town. Angela's first husband has not remarried.

The Questions:

Can Angela and Andy remarry? If so, both of them, or one of them? Why or why not?

In your opinion, what are those costs in this situation? And how can you and your church help them bear those costs?

You don't have to be a pastor to answer these questions. I welcome your thoughts as a church member who might be called upon to help in a situation like this. The more the merrier!

Monday, December 14, 2009

Zealous Husbands Who Destroy Their Marriages for the Ministry

C. Michael Patton:

Friends (and especially young zealous husbands or soon to be husbands), don’t make the mistake of having your passion for ministry end your marriage. Your first ministry is your marriage. If you don’t get that, you are not qualified for ministry. In the spirit of Priscilla: Do you not think that God is powerful enough to call you both into ministry or do you think he only has enough power to call one of you? If so, then he is not a God worth your time anyway. In short, if God does not call your wife, he is not calling you. Period.


Read the entire piece.

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Loved This Quote on Sex

HT: Desiring God.

"To complain that I could only be married once was like complaining that I had only been born once. It was incommensurate with the terrible excitement of which one was talking. It showed not an exaggerated sensibility to sex but a curious insensibility to it. A man is a fool who complains that he cannot enter Eden by five gates at once. Polygamy is a lack of the realization of sex; it's like a man plucking five pears in mere absence of mind."

G. K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy, 103.

Tuesday, October 06, 2009

Pastor... Looking for a Wife?

Then I'd suggest reading this sage counsel from my brother Mike Gilbart-Smith. Wise comments, especially the part about marrying Hannah being the best earthly decision he ever made. Love a man who knows he married UP! I know I did.

Monday, January 26, 2009

Feeding My Soul Today

Today is Heroes' Day in the Cayman Islands. The country celebrates those men and women who have given themselves in extraordinary ways for the commonweal. It's a great holiday and a great cause to give God praise for His providence in national prosperity, safety, and opportunity.

I'm also celebrating other heroes--heroes of the faith. So, I'm feeding my soul by listening to John Folmar expound Eph. 5:25-33. A sweet meditation on the gospel and marriage. I'm thankful for all those heroes who labored in love to make their marriages a reflection of the Divine Love displayed in the Gospel of our Lord, and those men like John who boldly and clearly preach on these needed topics.

Speaking of marriage, our young married small group meets tonight to begin Paul David Tripp's War of Words: Getting to the Heart of Your Communication Struggles. The group nearly unanimously chose to focus on communication and this is an excellent treatment of the subject and exposing of our hearts. We begin with Genesis 1 and the fact that God is a speaking God, which fills communication with unimaginable dignity and power.

Sunday, January 11, 2009

Marriage To Go

This is too bizarre to pass up. A couple recently exchanged wedding vows in a Taco Bell. The first two lines of the story are downright hilarious. "Normal, IL." Apparently, there's not much normal about Normal, IL.

Customers inside the fast-food restaurant continued to order tacos and burritos as the couple sat Friday in an orange Taco Bell booth and exchanged vows.

Employees displayed hot sauce packets labeled with the words "Will you marry me?" They decorated the restaurant with streamers and balloons.

The bride wore a $15 hot pink dress and the entire wedding cost about $200. Several dozen guests looked on as the couple's friend, Ryan Green of Normal, administered the vows while wearing a T-shirt. He was ordained online.


Now, I'm all for inexpensive weddings. My wife and I married for about the same amount of money. And too many high-dollar productions are over in a couple year's time, leaving the couple with huge debt as they prepared for the wedding but not the marriage.

But a fast-food wedding speaks volume about the state of marriage and the ceremonies that celebrate them. On-line relationship, add one on-line "ordination", pull up to the local drive-thru, and let's call it a marriage. One hopes they don't "run for the border" before death does them part.

Just when you thought things weren't weird enough with marriage, divorce takes a wacky turn. One NY man wants his former wife to return a kidney he devoted to her in 2001. Wow. Now a divorce can cost you an arm, a leg, and a donated kidney.

Monday, December 22, 2008

Hooking Up Is Here to Stay

At least that's the take of one journalist after a recently-released Child Trends study (HT: Challies). Truth in advertising: when I worked in the think tank world, Child Trends was an organization that I worked closely with. It's a good shop full of folks with research integrity.

According to the study, dating is passe. Apparently young people now lack the skills to simply ask someone out on a date. If the hook ups go well, then maybe a relationship develops. But not usually. Surprise, surprise; the guys aren't interested in a relationship.

This is the kind of thinking that creates opportunity for the church to give counter-cultural witness and display the wholeness of the good life in Christ. Jan. 4th we're starting up our Friendship, Courtship and Marriage class at FBC, patterned after some of the material from CHBC. What a joy it is to teach this class and to see light bulbs go off among the young and the old. If your church doesn't offer a Sunday school, small group, or Bible study focused on this topic, perhaps suggesting it to the leaders would be a good idea. Our people need it.

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Monday, December 08, 2008

Turning the Bible on Its Head

Mohler offers a very good review and critique of the Newsweek Magazine's new cover story offering a "religious" case for same-sex marriage. Excellent response as usual.

Friday, November 21, 2008

How's the Mrs?

So, the problem with the "Mamas don't let your babies to grow up to be pastors" video (besides the "Silly Songs with Larry" feeling you get listening to it) is that it actually points to some things that make you say "ouch!" Well, that's not a problem. That's helpful.

That video takes a light-hearted look at a serious temptation and problem: pastors neglecting their homes. I've too often neglected my home and failed to give time to my family--not only where needed, but where not "needed" as well. Just to enjoy the wife of my youth and like Edwards be fascinated in play with my children.

This is a serious problem for pastors. The gravity of it was captured, for me, in a short post from David Matthis at the DG blog. It's Grudem's brief comments on 1 Peter 3:7. Read it here and be challenged to give yourself afresh to your wife (or husband).

Monday, August 11, 2008

Home-work

UA has what looks like an excellent round-up of talks on husbands and fathers leading at home. I think this will be my listening agenda for the week. I'm in need.

Monday, May 19, 2008

"Will You Be Engaged to Me?"

Who asks a woman that? "Will you be engaged to me?" Sounds a little impermanent, a little non-commital.

But today, that stud and his wife have been married thirty years and many of us have had our own marriages and lives enriched because of them.

Happy anniversary C.J. and Carolyn!! May the Lord continue to keep you, bless you, and crown your life with joy in Christ!

Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Carolyn and C.J. on How to Help Your Husband When He Is Criticized

Here is must reading for church leaders with their wives: "How to Help Your Husband When He Is Criticized." I'm guessing every church leader is at some point going to receive criticism. And if he is married, he is likely to share his feelings about the criticism with his wife. How wives respond can either be incredibly hurtful or helpful. Thanks C.J. and Carolyn for this very helpful word of encouragement.

Friday, February 22, 2008

Socially Awkward Guys Make Better Husbands

We've just finished our six week Sunday school class on courtship. It was a fun class, with folks very hungry to think through biblical teaching useful for conducting dating and romantic relationships. In one of the classes (based on the notes here), we thought for a bit about attraction. I wish I had had this little article summary to share during that discussion. Provocative... and intuitively it makes sense to me. How about you?

Wednesday, November 28, 2007

The Carnage of Divorce


Barbara Challies, mother of Tim, guest blogs at Challies.com and offers great insight and a moving plea re: divorce. The carnage that divorce leaves is untold and not easily healed, despite what proponents of "starter marriages" and "no-fault" divorce would tell us. Oh, how I pray the Lord would help us to see and appropriate the deep trust in His sovereignty and goodness that Mrs. Challies exhorts us to in that last paragraph!